tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post6807434391919071601..comments2023-10-11T02:53:12.854-07:00Comments on Bird's Words: What the Church Can Learn from the Hardcore SceneBird's Wordshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18172896311469204163noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-28353935094143693592017-08-24T17:36:47.023-07:002017-08-24T17:36:47.023-07:00شركة تنظيف منازل بالجبيل
شركة تنظيف منازل بالق...<a href="http://www.samaclean.com/2017/07/blog-post_24.html" rel="nofollow"> شركة تنظيف منازل بالجبيل </a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.samaclean.com/2017/02/blog-post_97.html" rel="nofollow"> شركة تنظيف منازل بالقصيم </a><br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.samaclean.com/2017/02/blog-post_8.html" rel="nofollow"> شركة تنظيف منازل بالاحساء </a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.samaclean.com/2017/02/blog-post_6.html" rel="nofollow"> شركة تنظيف منازل بالدمام </a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.samaclean.com/2017/02/blog-post.html" rel="nofollow"> شركة تنظيف منازل بالرياض </a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.samaclean.com/2017/08/clean-house-qatef.html" rel="nofollow"> شركة تنظيف منازل بالقطيف </a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.samaclean.com/2017/08/clean-houses-khobar.html" rel="nofollow"> شركة تنظيف منازل بالخبر </a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.samaclean.com/2017/08/clean-houses-seihat.html" rel="nofollow"> شركة تنظيف منازل بسيهات </a><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-74556260741513181732017-07-07T04:13:17.930-07:002017-07-07T04:13:17.930-07:00Hey, I live in the UK, and grew up in an Anglican ...Hey, I live in the UK, and grew up in an Anglican Christan family, and I've always found that "outsider" groups and subcultures are far more accepting than the mainstream. From a fairly young age I struggled to fit in, so have always gravitated towards subculture. <br /><br />For a good few years I defined myself as Pagan, but even this didn't quite feel 'right' to me (I always thought prayer felt very much like talking to oneself), and I've ultimately come to the conclusion that it doesn't really *matter* whether you believe in a god (or many) or not; the important thing is how you live, and how you treat others. Subculture seems to foster a much more empathetic approach I think, because a lot of us know what it feels like to be rejected, or oppressed in some way, and so we welcome other outcasts and rejects with open arms. Unfortunately it's not always something I've experienced in the church, although I have been blessed with a family who are able to love me and my wife, in spite of their own beliefs about our relationship.<br /><br />The alternative music scene, the LGBTQ* community, and other subcultures have been absolutely instrumental in helping me find my own identity, and become capable of loving and accepting myself as I am. And every day, I try to do the same for others. <br /><br />Thank you for sharing your experience and how it affected you. 😊 xxAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01571042048741528103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-47814704291663614842017-07-06T18:23:01.007-07:002017-07-06T18:23:01.007-07:00Ian, thanks for your kind words!! Appreciate it! Ian, thanks for your kind words!! Appreciate it! Bird's Wordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172896311469204163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-25309247175228338372017-07-06T12:23:57.578-07:002017-07-06T12:23:57.578-07:00I really enjoyed reading this.Thanks for sharing y...I really enjoyed reading this.Thanks for sharing your experience! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247072640565562594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-9182237839360809212017-06-29T10:37:34.311-07:002017-06-29T10:37:34.311-07:00Good thoughts! Thanks for sharing!Good thoughts! Thanks for sharing!Bird's Wordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172896311469204163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-9042545605006910502017-06-28T06:01:34.250-07:002017-06-28T06:01:34.250-07:00Sorry So many typos. Lol. Sorry So many typos. Lol. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04598003865547743783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-8266877832323170202017-06-28T05:59:37.446-07:002017-06-28T05:59:37.446-07:00Awesome. The church could learn a lot from subcult...Awesome. The church could learn a lot from subculture in general. I've seen bands stop playing to keep someone from getting injured in the pit. They pack in and it's on. On Sunday's at churches everywhere in the US there are empty seats all over the auditiriums not because there aren't enough people (well sometimes) but church people who know each other don't even sit next to each other! Two and three seats inbetween other fellow believers. I've been to hardcore shows. Indie hip hop shows, and tattoo shops were there is the same safe and welcomed experience. Unbelievable to some but I've seen Christian bands get more respect in obvious anti Christian shows where st Christian festivals fellow believers judge the H311 out of them. It's wierd. At 40 I recently starting riding a skateboard. Similar experience. Young or old, new sister or seasoned acceptance and peace. Many are open to good. Good comes from God. People are made in Gids image so sometimes in the right venue it's easier to tap into it. How they were created. Christians have created places or tim's elves where they are not safe from each other so their insecurities are pushed into the outsider. The command was given to the believer to love the believer and that would draw people in. Christianity is a subculture. The western church tries not to be. We preach an eastern thought process through a western selfish lens. If we will not love our own we will not be successful loving those that need to be loved. Great post.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04598003865547743783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-19042634229412057082017-06-26T13:15:03.076-07:002017-06-26T13:15:03.076-07:00And to you likewise! #servingthevoices #radicalhos...And to you likewise! #servingthevoices #radicalhospitality #ryfo #soulcareAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15634773290461383534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-4800177273825700142017-06-26T13:08:00.800-07:002017-06-26T13:08:00.800-07:00It was so good to talk to you Stacy!It was so good to talk to you Stacy!Bird's Wordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172896311469204163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-31372983337095232592017-06-26T07:54:37.645-07:002017-06-26T07:54:37.645-07:00Hi there! I just realized this morning that I post...Hi there! I just realized this morning that I posted under my old profile! This is "SumiSweets" Anyway I wanted you to know that we not only pray for the artists, we also pray for their families. Your son is so blessed to have supportive parents like you who attend the live shows of music that is not their first choice. Blessings to you all!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15634773290461383534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-89004552660595467862017-06-26T07:30:59.847-07:002017-06-26T07:30:59.847-07:00Can't even tell you how much I love this!!!Can't even tell you how much I love this!!!Bird's Wordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172896311469204163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-33006648807690631272017-06-26T07:24:28.344-07:002017-06-26T07:24:28.344-07:00This is fantastic!!! Our son had told us of folks ...This is fantastic!!! Our son had told us of folks offering a free stay and showers/meals, so from this thankful mom, know you are loved for serving so beautifully! Bird's Wordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172896311469204163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-8576882139224432562017-06-25T22:11:29.187-07:002017-06-25T22:11:29.187-07:00Okay I just did a quick search and Jig is actually...Okay I just did a quick search and Jig is actually registered with us! Ha! Well let me know if you have any questions or if you'd like to know more about the host home network. Blessings to you!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15634773290461383534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-39621440841993051942017-06-25T22:07:02.655-07:002017-06-25T22:07:02.655-07:00I love this! I serve with a Christian nonprofit, R...I love this! I serve with a Christian nonprofit, RYFO (RYE-foe), and our mission is to eliminate the cultural divide between the Church and the musician community. We do this on a few levels and one of them is through our host home network. We provide a free night stay including hot meals and showers for touring artists and bands. Additionally they are safe people that provide a safe space because they know that the life on stage can be vastly different than the life offstage and sometimes need a welcoming hug and a warm smile. . .all because they believe that they are a reflection of God's wide open arms to all who want to receive His love, acceptance and forgiveness. Here's our Facebook page to learn more https://www.facebook.com/ryfonetwork/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15634773290461383534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-76226903654189036332017-06-23T13:25:48.631-07:002017-06-23T13:25:48.631-07:00Bentoons, his band is Jig. He's lead vocalist ...Bentoons, his band is Jig. He's lead vocalist for them and also fills in on drums for other bands occasionally. :) Bird's Wordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172896311469204163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-41260960415560947782017-06-23T13:24:57.274-07:002017-06-23T13:24:57.274-07:00Sam, thanks for the kind words! We definitely need...Sam, thanks for the kind words! We definitely need to be working for the Kingdom! Bird's Wordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172896311469204163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-36547879273257458772017-06-23T13:12:04.300-07:002017-06-23T13:12:04.300-07:00Ok great article, but we need to know - what is yo...Ok great article, but we need to know - what is your son's band named?Bentoonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18156480073339760136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-87329220780679015292017-06-23T11:54:09.067-07:002017-06-23T11:54:09.067-07:00Amen. That's so powerful and encouraging for M...Amen. That's so powerful and encouraging for Metalhead like myself. I believe clutch has to wake up and work heartfully for the kingdom of God. Great article and experience. I'll share this to my fellow Christian Metalheads. Thank you and God bless you.samjoey777https://www.blogger.com/profile/12508984925975893733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-35884016960029019102017-06-22T16:06:17.893-07:002017-06-22T16:06:17.893-07:00Jonathan, yes I do believe Miracle Drug was playin...Jonathan, yes I do believe Miracle Drug was playing that night! Small world! I know I've heard my son talk about them a lot. It's a beautiful thing to see such community! Thanks for reaching out and sharing your story with me! Bird's Wordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172896311469204163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-37353443807406658722017-06-22T16:04:47.388-07:002017-06-22T16:04:47.388-07:00Mark, this is awesome. I've seen that kind of ...Mark, this is awesome. I've seen that kind of coming together among my son's friends in the hardcore scene in the Louisville and Indianapolis areas. It's beautiful! And I kinda think Jesus would be the most incredible mosher ever! And could do it without injury! Haha! Blessings on you, my friend! Thanks for reaching out! Bird's Wordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172896311469204163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-83694139545576227842017-06-22T15:02:48.655-07:002017-06-22T15:02:48.655-07:00Looks like a Miracle Drug show at Spinelli's. ...Looks like a Miracle Drug show at Spinelli's. My kids go all the time and were likely there. I played in hardcore bands, touring and recording, in the 90s and agree with what you say. They are a lovely bunch much of the time. The Church can certainly learn from them. Imago Dei is on display in the punk scene... I pray they'll become God's children. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06087170036525456562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-3145833328553528852017-06-22T14:41:59.187-07:002017-06-22T14:41:59.187-07:00As a 47 year old father of 4 who grew up in the ha...As a 47 year old father of 4 who grew up in the hardcore scenes in NY and DC, I would like to thank you for writing this article. I've been preaching "the scene" for close to 35 years now and can tell you it has made me the man I am today. I now bring my daughter to shows with me and her level of social consciousness has grown immensely. She is straight edge, I never was, she is vegan, I never was. She is now raising money for underprivileged kids in DC. I was raised Catholic but do not attend church anymore because of the judgement I received from the congregation but more specifically the administration of the church which continues to this day... as I discovered when me with my bald head and tattoos went to register my younger daughter for CCD. (story for another time, and there are many). You nailed it though, but I think a lot more folks other than just the church, can learn from hardcore. Rarely a week will go by here in DC when there is not a show to benefit a cause or a friend. Recently a longtime hardcore scene member passed away suddenly and people came from around the world to attend a benefit for him in Asbury Park, NJ. It was beautiful. These kids often put themselves last and was that not the main teaching of Jesus? So when people ask, "What Would Jesus DO?" He would mosh....well maybe he wouldn't mosh, it's hard past a certain age, but he'd definitely be in the pit healing bruises because those folks, whether they know it or not, are the closest I've ever seen to his Word in action.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00744108737659984135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-75956329582275459742017-06-22T14:19:04.384-07:002017-06-22T14:19:04.384-07:00David, thanks for these words. So true what you sa...David, thanks for these words. So true what you said. They have a real hold on what community is supposed to look like! Appreciate you reaching out!Bird's Wordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172896311469204163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-81564039341862517802017-06-22T10:31:40.899-07:002017-06-22T10:31:40.899-07:00I WAS one of said musicians. I played in a hardcor...I WAS one of said musicians. I played in a hardcore band for YEARS (a Christian hardcore band in fact) and for quite some time it was the only church I had. They are TRULY christlike (which, if I'm not mistaken, is what the word christian means). I loved being an active part of that scene and STILL am (when able) active in the consumer portion of it, but I don't think I will ever be able to walk away from it......that, it seems to me, is what we (as christians) have always wanted.....and they (hardcore) have it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09703939274157053413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090538454632395885.post-56449427832666238842017-06-22T07:44:37.043-07:002017-06-22T07:44:37.043-07:00I'll tell him you like it:)I'll tell him you like it:) Bird's Wordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172896311469204163noreply@blogger.com